Vietnam: American Holocaust

I've recently encounter a video that some anonymous have made about the war with very much details about Viet Nam war. I agree over 90% with this video. Please watch and enlighten yourself.



"The United States killed between 3 and 5 million people in the Vietnam War. This feature looks at the history of that war and the how and ... all » why it happened using interviews with participates on both sides, speeches, conversation and actual wartime footage. Contains graphic violence."

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8944817304139359835&q=vietnam&total=62245&start=180&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

"Why do they hate us so much?" - isometry.com

I've recently found a new post about America's "deeds" in the world.

Please visit http://www.isometry.com/usahate.html and educate yourself.

"Massive war crimes in Vietnam war: The mass murder of well over 1 million (some say about 3 million) innocent Vietnamese civilians during the Vietnam war was an act of mass state terrorism. (The USA also used chemical weapons such as dioxins in this aggressive war.) The USA should have been forced to pay hundreds of billions of dollars of reparations for their war crimes. But instead, the USA imposed horrendous trade sanctions on Vietnam which led to mass starvation for many years. At the same time, the USA forced the Vietnamese to put a humiliating amount of effort into finding decades-old corpses of American war criminals. Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian Vietnamese died without their bodies being recovered. But US citizens are capable of feeling no sympathy for any people other than their own. They think that one American is worth a thousand foreigners. There are many people in the USA even now who are proud of their participation in the mass murder and war crimes in Vietnam."

"Causing the `Asian meltdown' through oppressive loan conditions: Enforcement of completely inappropriate and humiliating conditions on Thailand through the IMF, which is controlled by the USA. In the Asian crisis of about 1997, the currency of Thailand collapsed, due to the sudden withdrawal of huge amounts of capital, mostly by the USA. As a result, there was massive unemployment, thousands of people committed suicide, and the misery continues to this day. The IMF forced Thailand to carry out even more inappropriate measures after the crisis, whereas Malaysia refused the IMF commands. Malaysia's economy improved quickly but Thailand's did not. The economies of Vietnam and China hardly noticed the Asian meltdown, because they did not follow the IMF commands."

"Attempted invasion of Cuba: Unsuccessful invasion of Cuba (1961) to install pro-US-capitalist government. Large numbers of people pointlessly killed for ideological/economic reasons, with no apology. In 2002, the US government still hates Cuba more than any country. The USA takes a very, very long time to forgive countries which successfully resist (and thereby humiliate) the US Empire. (Others include Iran and Vietnam.) The USA is a poor loser."

"USA is protectionist - but everybody else must accept free trade: In March 2002, the USA put up to 30% tariffs on steel imports to protect the inefficient US steel industry and get votes for the next election. The USA's propagandists have been on the airwaves explaining why this is a good thing. Unfortunately, the arguments they have used in favour of US protectionism, if true, are even more true for the poor countries of the world. If a rich country like the USA needs to protect its industries, then surely the poor countries have even more need. This is just typical of the USA's approach to politics - first work out what's in the USA's self-interest, then muster the arguments to support the decision. But if the same arguments are used to defend the actions of any other country, they are rejected. Somehow free trade is supposed to be good for every country in the world, but protectionism of the farm sector, the steel sector etc., is good for the USA. People in the USA just can't remember the arguments they used last month for last month's policies. The right argument for the USA is always the argument which benefits the USA this month. Protecting the workers is a good thing when the USA wants to increase the cost of production in poor countries to reduce their competitiveness, but protecting the workers is a bad thing when US companies want to exploit workers. A good example of US American protectionism is the exclusion of catfish imports from Vietnam. The USA just can't compete. So they call efficient production dumping or unfair trade. But that just means that the USA can't compete on a level playing field."

"Gulf of Tonkin incident: In 1964, the US government administration lied about the North Vietnamese attacking US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin and used this as a pretext for a massive escalation of aggression against North Vietnam. The US government's respect for truth is similar to Hitler's respect for truth when he invaded Poland because of the alleged mistreatment of Germans by the Poles."

" For a day or two after the 9-11 suicide hijacks, the whole world felt a huge sympathy for the USA. For once we saw the USA weak and vulnerable. When the USA was strutting the world stage as the selfish international bully, no one could feel affection for them. Seeing the USA weak for once made it possible to feel compassion and sympathy.

But the USA squandered the sympathy it deserved and received on 2001-9-11. If the US had been more gentle and understanding, the sympathy would have continued. But instead, the USA turned into a super-bully, much more selfish and bloodthirsty than ever before. And this is why the USA is without friends now. The USA has cashed in its international goodwill chips. There will be no chips left when the USA needs friends again some day.

The only real friend they have now is the illegitimate Australian government, which won the national election shortly after 9-11 on the basis of fear and loathing for foreigners. The Australian government needs to keep the pattern of war going so as to make them look important, and so that they can suppress dissent within Australia. I don't know why the UK government is so keen to please the USA. We know that behind the scenes, the English-speaking christian countries are very well integrated militarily. I can only assume that both the UK, US and Australia can see that Israel is endangered right now. But the Australian government tried very hard to keep the Vietnam war going when the USA wanted to stop, because it was needed domestically within Australia. The Australian government is showing the same back-seat driver enthusiasm again now. (The majority of Australians and British are opposed to the invasion of Iraq.)"

" 2005-5-4: The current kill ratio by US soldiers in Iraq is about 100:1. They've killed about 120,000 since 2003 against only 1200 of their own killed. This is even more impressive than their kill ratio of 50:1 in Vietnam where they killed 3 million innocent people for only about 50,000 lost. This may be compared with the Israeli kill ratio of only about 4:1 against the Palestinians in the last 5 years. The USA is probably the most effective killer in history. It isn't cheap though. It costs the USA more than a million dollars to kill each Iraqi. If they had to pay fair compensation for their murders, it would cost even more than that."

These quotes were recorded from the site I've mentioned above that is only related to Viet Nam, however there are plenty of other interesting insight of America's suffering towards the world mention within that website. I respect the knowledge from the website because I did not find a paragraph that I have disagreed with. I hope this will bring knowledge to others who seek.

http://www.youtube.com/vntiger

-VNTIGER

How much does Viet Nam really hate USA?

Sai Gon, Indochina used to be the capital of the French’s colonial empire ran by Emperor Bao Dai a mandarin Catholic & the previous Nguyen Dynasties only to satisfied the Frenchman by enslaving the population of the Vietnamese people under plantations to produce goods for shipping all back to The French Empire. There was less than a few percentage of the population which would be lucky enough to be raised wealthy or royal to assist and eventually lead the colonist government just in case a breakout of rebellious militias occurred. Many attempts have been made since 1885 to 1895 by "Phan Dinh Phuong”’s & his militias, he was considered a hero. Phung's remains had not been mercy to rest in peace because Ngo Dinh Kha father of Ngo Dinh Diem who was the member of the French colonial administration used Hero Phan Dinh Phung's remain as gunpowder to execute revolutionaries.

Phan Boi Chau formed “Reformation Society” rebellions in 1903, however his quests were unsuccessful due to a French informant/betrayer by the name of Nguyen Thuong Huyen who act as if he cared about a free Viet Nam eventually reported Phan Boi Chau’s rebellious organization to the French. He was arrested from his residual in China and they imprisoned him in Ha Noi. Phan Boi Chau was aware of Ho Chi Minh since he was a friend with Ho Chi Minh’s father, he was interested in meeting him one day but never had the chance.

The French colonist government controlled Viet Nam from Tokin (North, Ha Noi), Annam (Central, Hue), Cochinchina (South, Sai Gon). Ho Chi Minh was greatly educated by the French of which he used their knowledge against them. He formed the revolutionary party the Viet Minh who took action in the First Indochina War in 1945 helping American troops repel the French Communist & the Japanese as well as seeking for American’s MIAs within the jungles. After the victory over Japan, Ho Chi Minh read the “Declaration of Independence” for the first time, however the British, French & Indian troops came into Indochina and restored the French’s control of Indochina. During 1950 Ho Chi Minh again read the “Declaration of Independence” (an American script) hoping Viet Nam to be recognized by the world’s great power including the United States of America, however his declaration was only recognized by USSR and China.

America refused to recognize Viet Nam as a solitary nation. Furthermore the victory of Dien Bien Phu in May – March 1954 have cause the Geneva Conference in France involving America, China, France, UK & USSR to settle a dispute over Viet Nam’s Independence, however the conclusion result to the Geneva Accord to allow the nation to settle it’s solidarity under a democratic election. Ho Chi Minh was keened over the decision and took it as it is, however during the reunification process America intervene with the Sai Gon government (post French administrative government) having a pre-election between Ngo Dinh Diem and Bao Dai. Diem however won his campaign in a rigged election. The final election was then between Ho Chi Minh and Ngo Dinh Diem, however America later came up with the domino theory and decided to call off the election breaking the Geneva Accord contract leaving Ho Chi Minh to be the president of Democratic Republic of Viet Nam. (North) Holding his ground Ho Chi Minh was rebuilding North Viet Nam to bring prosperity & happiness to all of the people. During the land reform process many of the wealthy post French administrative officials were refusing to contribute to the reform and fled to southern Viet Nam with all of their income.

As evil as his father; Ngo Dinh Diem also executed many revolutionaries and Buddhist leader because he was a Catholic extremist who was prejudice against the Buddhism. After he executed them his excuse was that they were insurgents, he also proclaimed Thich Quang Duc (the burning monk) as one of the insurgent’s. Diem’s wife referred Thich Quang Duc as a human barbeque and encourages more of them to burn themselves as pleased.

Let’s summarize this article about how much Ho Chi Minh “hated” America.

1. Ho Chi Minh seeks President Woodrow Wilson to help remove the French colonist government and replace it with a nationalist government but was denied.

2. Ho Chi Minh’s Viet Minh assisted America in the 1945 WWII against the French communist & Japanese axis as well as helping America locate its MIAs.

3. Ho Chi Minh proclaimed Viet Nam as Democratic Republic of Viet Nam. (Following examples from America’s Republic Democracy)

4. Ho Chi Minh read the “U.S. Declaration of Independence” throughout Viet Nam from Ha Noi on September 2, 1945.

5. Ho Chi Minh again read the “U.S. Declaration of Independence” in 1950.

6. Ho Chi Minh signed and agreed to the terms of the Geneva Accord.

7. Ho Chi Minh held ground against the unfair intervention by America to call off the Democratic election.

Ho Chi Minh have step out of his way too far to promote his friendship with America, however the tyrant refuse his goodwill and sees his kindness as his weakness. However “You can kill 10 of my men for every one of yours I kill, but in the end you will lose and I will win!”

Did Ho Chi Minh started war with America and it’s Republic of Viet Nam counterpart? No… The irony here is that there were many leads to the Viet Nam war that is beyond fair intentions.

French a WWII ally of USA was beaten and humiliated after WWII. They were beaten again in the Indochina War. When the French withdraw they did not want their post government to be handed to the victor, so they had to gather the world’s power together in France and dispute on Viet Nam’s solidarity, however as intended the country was divided. The country may have been divided into two, however America came up with the “Domino Theory” suggested by Dwight D. Eisenhower to initiate action in Viet Nam. During the reunification process a leader had to be elected by the people , however the election was dismissed and America have chosen it’s leader to repel the “communist” from “spreading”. The gate to South Viet Nam was closed, Ho Chi Minh had no hard feelings actually. North Viet Nam continued rebuilding its economy until America became tempted to start a war. America continuously funded South Viet Nam’s government with military and money. America had spent $500 billion dollars in South Viet Nam, in short terms America bought South Viet Nam. When the military was ready, America decided to provoke war with the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin. America had crossed the border exchanging fire however they were unsuccessful so they pass a misleading draft to congress informing that both of their ships were shot down by the North Viet Navy (what the hell were they doing on the coast of North Viet Nam’s border anyway?). As the draft was passing down to congress America’s intervention with Viet Nam was approved and they engaged in a rapid b52 bombing raid in the Harbor Port of Viet Nam (Hai Phong) killing anything in its way. This is what caused the Viet Nam war. America could’ve had Viet Nam as a great, loyal ally if they have only accepted our friendship in the first place, however the only appreciation we receive is a blast to the dark ages and a new friend called agent orange. After America’s withdraw from Viet Nam, immediately set an embargo/sanction on Viet Nam in 1973 from all NATO nations isolating Viet Nam. Viet Nam’s only support was the Soviet bloc until 1992. However with the decision of President Bill Clinton embargo/sanction was dropped in 1995 which allowed Viet Nam to resume marketing with the rest of the world. Viet Nam was also admitted into WTO on January, 2006. To conclude this article; all this leads to America’s “domino theory” and other idiotic theories that caused roughly 3-5 million deaths and around 58,000 of their own. Now in the 21 century Viet Nam wants to improve relation with USA favor over China. So how much does Viet Nam really hate America?

ZERO. The American casualties were minimized because Viet Nam did not want to kill American’s during the war, actually American POW were treated humane and with respectful. The casualties for America could’ve been much higher than roughly 58,000 but ended up the majority of around 300,000 Americans troops injured. Viet Nam was only trying to warn Americans to keep away from our country, not kill you. However kindness is not a way to communicate with a killing machine. Americans had to be dragged into war by conscription; is that an ideal example of American’s conservative democracy?

Did America have any rights to intervene with Viet Nam’s solidarity?

“If you don’t want to help us then leave us alone, but instead you caused us a pain we can never forget.”

-VNTIGER

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